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 - Even physically, man creates man
 - Wrong to ask of first man, as it is wrong to abstract man from nature (man is nature)
 - By sidestepping fundamental ontology, Marx bootstraps man into role of Creator
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+- Man is the being of Nature; Nature is the being of Man
+- Impractical to theorize about alien "God" being above nature and man
+- Socialism doesn't need Atheism's negation of God
+- Socialism is Man's "positive-consciousness": the natural form of consciousness for emancipated man, not contingent on abolition of religion
+- Communism occurs at the onset of "positive-reality": natural form of life for emancipated man, not contingent on abolition of private property
+- Communism is when we negate the need to negate: the final negation
+- Praxis of theory and practice which become iteratively more proximate until they converge/fuse
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 *Cut this out, or there's something wrong with you. Intellectual swindler is the term, again, that is used for this.*
 
-"You can reply "I do not want to postulate the nothingness of nature", etc. Just as I asked the anatomist about the formation of bones, and so on. But since, for the Socialist Man, the entire so-called history of the world is nothing but the creation of Man through human labour, nothing but the emergence of nature for man so he has the visible, irrefutable proof of his birth through himself of his Genesis. Since the real existence of man and nature has become evident in practice through the sense experience, because man has thus become evident for Man as the being of nature, and nature for man as the being of Man. The question about an alien being, about being above nature and man, a question which implies the admission of the unreality of nature and of man has become impossible in practice. Atheism, as the denial of this unreality, has no longer any meaning for Atheism is a negation of God and postulates the existence of man through this negation, but Socialism as Socialism no longer stands in any need of such immediation. It proceeds from the theoretically and practically sensuous consciousness of man and nature as the essence. Socialism is man's positive self-consciousness, no longer mediated through the abolition of religion, just as real-life is man's positive reality no longer mediated throught he abolition of private property through Communism. Communism is the position as the negation of the negation and, hence, is the actual phase necessary for the next stage of historical development in the process of human emancipation and rehabilitation. Communism is the necessary form and the dynamic principle of the immediate future, but Communism, as such, is not the goal of human development, the form of human society."
+"You can reply "I do not want to postulate the nothingness of nature", etc. Just as I asked the anatomist about the formation of bones, and so on. But since, for the Socialist Man, the entire so-called history of the world is nothing but the creation of Man through human labour, nothing but the emergence of nature for man so he has the visible, irrefutable proof of his birth through himself of his Genesis. Since the real existence of man and nature has become evident in practice through the sense experience, because man has thus become evident for Man as the being of nature, and nature for man as the being of Man. The question about an alien being, about being above nature and man, a question which implies the admission of the unreality of nature and of man has become impossible in practice. Atheism, as the denial of this unreality, has no longer any meaning for Atheism is a negation of God and postulates the existence of man through this negation, but
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+ Socialism as Socialism no longer stands in any need of such immediation. It proceeds from the theoretically and practically sensuous consciousness of man and nature as the essence.
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+ Socialism is man's positive self-consciousness, no longer mediated through the abolition of religion, just as real-life is man's positive reality no longer mediated throught he abolition of private property through Communism. Communism is the position as the negation of the negation and, hence, is the actual phase necessary for the next stage of historical development in the process of human emancipation and rehabilitation. Communism is the necessary form and the dynamic principle of the immediate future, but Communism, as such, is not the goal of human development, the form of human society."
 
 *This is Marx talking about the origin of humanity and he says that "For the Socialist" we just see that Man is Man and Nature is Nature, and we are, in practice, the entire history of the world is nothing but the creation of Man through human labour. For Marx, man is creating man through the process of history, and man is creating himself by realiziing that he is a man in this process. For Man to realize that he is man in himself, which is along the path to becoming Socialist Msn, he first has to realize his potential for full independence and, eventually, to be man in himself, he has to realize his full independence, independence from God, independence from his parentage. Man as creator placed in place of Deity - that's what's going on in the Marxian Theology - each Man has to become his own creator. Theory and practice in place of religion, or as a religion, is what's going on. Socialist Theory explaining what's happening and practice until those two fuse.*