where is the dividing line between political discourse and all discourse
is all discourse political? what makes it political?
that it relates to public affairs and governance
so then that means that everything can be political, from the moment that there is any sort of community
so when we say that there is a corrupt political discourse, or that political discourse is inherently corruptible, that isn't necessarily the case
sure we can say that it has a tendency to become corrupt
but it is us who becomes corrupt
we need to keep our eyes on the ball
we need to understand what it is we are seeking, what we are deliberating over
if we already have an understanding that there is political side which is more or less correct, then we have lost that integrity
ythere is no way to uncover the good ideas if there is any sort of preconceived division over the issue wherein there are beliefs that one side has a less incorrect understanding of it
but, we nevertheless DO need to engage these issues, because it affects us regardless of whether we attempt to guide the discourse or not
when others have the discourse, it affects us, at least in theory it should
now, one could make the argument that one's own pursuits are more important and yield effects whose significance is so great that the effect of the political discourse does not even register at scale
but that is a separate discussion
and it still doesn't solve the circumstance of subjects which, regardless of their being political, are important for one to have discourse over
to formulate na opinion about
as that exists, there is still a need to have discourse which may or may not be believed to be political
so then we come full circle and enter back into a recurring behaviour
and yet somehow we believe that we can make progress doing this, by supporting or participating in a process which deems itself to be refining the governance of all people, including ourselves
but what if that process of refinement is inching us closer towards the exact circumstances which we posit to be the motivation for the discourse in the first place, then it becomes an unreasonable proposition 
and to do it recurringly is a proposition for insanity
so why would we wish to engage with that? is there not something more productive to be done? yes - it would have to be the conceptualization of solutions and the seeking of their development
and we can do that independently, we needn't a politically charged body to support us
we needn't utilize politics to manipulate those who would otherwise impede our effort into accepting or, as is more the case in the current time, supporting them
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