A character created named Sex Ed - Ed vincent the sex educator from NY with his accent. and he has symposiums:

they say really weird things and then he says "is that weird? who's to say?"

Rubin pollutes the idea that there is normal vs weird / abnormal. She goes deeply into the idea of perversion and perverts - talking about and defending perverts on different grounds, such as whether they're being excluded from jobs:
"That they would have increasingly strict requirements on people who rae teachers or who have higher office - to not be perverts - keep perverts out of teaching positions."

We listened about that article from 2016 (Professor Ward - Gender and Sexuality Studies): "We need to complicate the idea of heterosexuality by saying 'sometimes it includes homosexuality too'". Complicate the idea of straightness to include gayness:
- power grab
- New form of heterosexuality
- Theorize about this to complicate heterosexuality
- If we adopt this paradigm, we have to rely on Queer Theorists to tell us:
  - what is legitimately heterosexuality/homosexuality/crossing a line
  - Qid